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what do you equip oh your tank to increase its defence
bloodywill
post Mar 7 2010, 04:44 PM
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Hi
what do you equip oh your tank to increase its defence
The damage I received when I am using the +45 armor part is simillar to the damage I received when I take it off. It seems that the armor has no effect on me!!!
Why what do you used to increase your defece? Sometimes I saw tanks (like Panther D and G) receive 90 - 150 damage. How do them achieve that?

Thank you for answering my question.
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post Mar 7 2010, 04:58 PM
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the armor does lower the damage you receive, maybe you should mount a little more.


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post Mar 7 2010, 05:09 PM
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Hm. I have military skill +50mm armor and equip Light Weight Armor Plant A +24 mm armor and Assist Armor Plate C +45mm. Now I have totally 181 mm armor on my Panther A. The defece rating is S. But the damage I receive doesn`t change much when I take the Assist Armor Plate C off (When I take it off, the tank defence rating is A )

I just can`t figure out why! Now I need to make a decision. Add HP to my tank or add Armor.

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post Mar 7 2010, 05:33 PM
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3 Tips:

Never go all-armor setup... its what noobs do... (If driving AG, diffrent story.)

Never go all-speed (catapult) setup... again what noobs do. They think they can drive around and own everybody and not get killed, but in the end they always get killed.

Self Destruct... Noobiest tactic ever, if a person lands 1 shot and you and you self destruct, they get all your exp.. (thats like 2000exp for a panther G.)


The best tanks use a mix of parts, Non-VP and VP.


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bloodywill
post Mar 7 2010, 06:24 PM
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Hm, ok, I will choose HP device
thanks
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post Mar 8 2010, 06:00 PM
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Pfft, I had plenty of fun running on all catapults on my old early model PzIV, heheh


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post Mar 8 2010, 07:11 PM
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I have seen panthers go full speed mode and they weren't noobs at all. Only using hit and run tactics.

High level soviet tanks go full armored mode and they are a knightmare for TDs but soviets are better to go full armor than german ones where the only good armor is front.

And if you want know how armor works really only go with a friend to battleroom to do tests. And it is the best you will see it for yourself.

Battleroom the best place to know how this game works hehehe (so I know what descriptions are full wrong because they lie).

Still I didn't see any guide explains how armor works in this game. All are wrong in any part laugh.gif

And I won't be who makes the real guide about how works the armor (Joseph hates all my guides muhahaha) but all spanish players know how it works tongue.gif And almost no one tested my korean one only Anubis and Joseph tried it.

Pity is how help them to earn level 20 when no players at normal european time in level 18-19 range.

Pd: Don't go for hp blocks using Panther. Go for speed, more firepower or muzzle breaks but no HP. It is obsolete.


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post Mar 8 2010, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE (Wittmann @ Mar 8 2010, 01:11 PM) *
And if you want know how armor works really only go with a friend to battleroom to do tests. And it is the best you will see it for yourself.

Battleroom the best place to know how this game works hehehe (so I know what descriptions are full wrong because they lie).



Wittmann, if armor is the best, then why do you not put any on your beloved Elephant?

Me and some of TeamBlitz have done some major testing concerning many skills and descriptions, the results of which are currently only for TeamBlitz and those testers involved.

And the descriptions do not lie, they are faulty and are not meant to deceive you.


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post Mar 9 2010, 02:08 AM
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QUOTE (Bloodsky @ Mar 8 2010, 11:50 PM) *
Wittmann, if armor is the best, then why do you not put any on your beloved Elephant?

Me and some of TeamBlitz have done some major testing concerning many skills and descriptions, the results of which are currently only for TeamBlitz and those testers involved.

And the descriptions do not lie, they are faulty and are not meant to deceive you.


Because Elephant is a TD and no one tank, the same if you try armor SPG.

For example I can't beat in 1vs1 to full armored KV level 18. Forestalling has 45 minutes cooldown and DB 15 minutes.

And I know they aren't to deceive players but still they are wrong but don't worry in Rhadoo page they are correct biggrin.gif


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post Mar 9 2010, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE (bloodywill @ Mar 7 2010, 05:44 PM) *
Hi
what do you equip oh your tank to increase its defence
The damage I received when I am using the +45 armor part is simillar to the damage I received when I take it off. It seems that the armor has no effect on me!!!
Why what do you used to increase your defece? Sometimes I saw tanks (like Panther D and G) receive 90 - 150 damage. How do them achieve that?

Thank you for answering my question.


It's not only your part configuration but also your military configuration which improves your defense -- including the IronWall capability, your added armor as well adding additional front armor (page 1, Left Branch). Your combat skills should always be the highest available for your level of your primary buffs including Iron Wall.

In your battles, your tactics should try to keep your front to your enemy when possible. Most tanks have better front armor.


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post Mar 10 2010, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE (jjvannorman @ Mar 9 2010, 06:46 PM) *
It's not only your part configuration but also your military configuration which improves your defense -- including the IronWall capability, your added armor as well adding additional front armor (page 1, Left Branch). Your combat skills should always be the highest available for your level of your primary buffs including Iron Wall.

In your battles, your tactics should try to keep your front to your enemy when possible. Most tanks have better front armor.


This is my armor build: I have military skill +50mm armor and equip Light Weight Armor Plant A +24 mm armor and Assist Armor Plate C +45mm. Now I have totally 181 mm front armor on my Panther A.

Of course I use Iron Wall on my tank (the top level one). I am not a novice in this game . I just want to know why armor does have effect on me. I did a test, when a field gun hit my front, the damage I received when I am equip armor parts is similar to the damage when I take it off.

And thx wittman. please tell me how the armor works. I am interested in this
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post Mar 10 2010, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE (bloodywill @ Mar 10 2010, 04:07 AM) *
I did a test, when a field gun hit my front, the damage I received when I am equip armor parts is similar to the damage when I take it off.


All NPC in game ignore armor. So they do same damage to full armored AG on front than on no armor at all SPG if they are same distance (but remember damage is a bit random).


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post Mar 10 2010, 03:37 PM
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Wittman is correct...NPC damage is not a meaningful test of your upgraded capability.


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post Apr 6 2010, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (Bloodsky @ Mar 7 2010, 06:33 PM) *
3 Tips:

Never go all-armor setup... its what noobs do... (If driving AG, diffrent story.)



i don't think that is correct. ok i am not saying that i am one of the best or even really good but i am not a noob i have the panther lvl 15 i drive an just about an all armor setup. i think it is great becuase if you think of it tatically i have 200+ front armor + military skill on gun/armor lines when your in small tank fights and people are not swarming around you hitting your side armor or rear you become a very tough person to kill they all may try and focus on me i am able to stay alive long enough for me+ other german people to kill 2, 3, mabe even 4 people without losing a single team mate. i am not sure how using all armor setup makes you a noob(i am not saying you can't call people noob you have every right too and we all know that but anyways) if you think of it of a team effort point of very you become a key factor in winning some battles. and yes you may think becuase you don't have a few or any aiming sights your fire power is low and you may not hit as high as everyone els but i'm sure you can atleast hit 500-600(crits) then all armor is a good idea enough to make you a decent player and not a noob.

And for the author for this topic you will need alot of armor to see any major difference (*) @ 35 you need to be seeing 200-250 and if you have 170,180,190 it will not cut it i know it may seem not alot off but it's a huge deal (must have fortress II i guessing you do have everyone should, and fortify II or III not saying you must have it but if you like armor as much as i do go for it people will be hitting 120's-250's and 200-500 crits and not 700+


PS: if you think what i said was a load of BS please just tell me to shut up and i don't know what i am talking about lol so i can keep that in mind so i think more on what i am about to say.
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post Apr 6 2010, 09:32 PM
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look havinng good armor is one part of having a good tank ,but the player need to think to.

remember that you need to cover your back , if you get shoot in the back were is less armor you always going to get more dmg


so try to cover your back


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post May 6 2010, 12:50 PM
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I used Health increase parts instead (so it would take fort gun more than 1 shot to kill me LOLz)
but that's something on my mind...is it better to increase health or armor?


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post May 7 2010, 04:29 PM
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Just being average, no need to increase the defence.
No matter how high your defence is, u can still be destroyed when you face a lot of enemy.

Just be a right time to forward or retreat. It is about timing i think. After all it is a game about team work.

But if there are lots of players on the map like korean version, then no need to consider the strategy as you can always have "Food". rolleyes.gif (Just rush and kill laugh.gif )


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post May 11 2010, 09:48 PM
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What i like about tanks of my country (and yes i am russian) is that already have good armor and decent firepower if u dont believe me go on lvl 15 to 17 map and u will see all u might need is some speed and muzzles along with aiming sites since panthers out range us and sometimes are faster.
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